1:1 scale LMS Explorer (ldr file available)


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Announcement: I made smaller versions of this ship (1:8, 1:16, 1:32) and one of them could become a real Lego set, if enough people support my L.M.S. Explorer project on Lego Ideas: https://ideas.lego.com/projects/38716

 

[NEWS] (2014-11-21): I added a parts list, that I generated with MLCad.

 

[NEWS] (2014-11-15): New upload link for the ldr-file (in form of a zip file), because I uploaded it on the new RRU uploader. You can find the file via Upload File --> Database --> Miscellaneous --> 1-to-1 scale L.M.S. Explorer.zip --> Download

 

Errata (2014-10-29): I corrected the mistake with the lxf file, because it's actually a ldr file (can be opened with ldview, mlcad and probably others programs, too).

 

[NEWS] (2014-08-04): As a RRU-member you are able to download the ldr file of the L.M.S. Explorer in the uploaded files-section of RRU ("Upload files" in the top left corner --> View all uploaded files --> somewhere should be a "1-to-1-scale-LMS-Explorer" file)

 

[NEWS] (2014-06-13): The user "Sadie Meowsalot" recreated in collaboration with other users the hangar bays from the LMS Explorer. It's still WIP, but please check it out in this thread on page 9 (you can download the ldr file, too):

 

[NEWS] (2013-10-06): I uploaded the first picture rendered in POV-Ray (=much better quality and resolution). I also replaced most of the old pictures in this post with the new ones, because they look better.

 

[NEWS] (2013-08-07): I made an entry in my rru-blog, which contains a (probably) complete list of all the different LMS Explorer MOCs, which you can find on the internet:

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[NEWS] (2013-05-09): I finally uploaded pictures from my finished LDD bridge model. I don't know, why I forgot it for such a long time, but in the last days I've completed this task.

Also thanks to Lair for the magazine picture from the RL bridge version on thread page number two :)

 

[NEWS] (2013-02-28): I've repaired all the imagelinks in this post and also incluced some of the other images from my several posts in this thread,

which will make things easier to search (or you just use the gallery function^^). Another thing: My rant about the elevators in the RR-intro was wrong,

because when I was building the LMS Explorer on the Minecraftserver (I don't know if it belonged to Phoenyx or CTXXTC), I've found out, that the

first elevator is in the middle of the ship and the second one (which leads to the hangar) on the right side (maybe I'll make a little sketch of it).]

 

Parts List (for the most part it's "only" the hull):

  Number   Color    Part Number    Part name
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2 Dark_Gray  2486.dat     Bar  1 x  8 x  2
   46 Light_Gray 3005.dat     Brick  1 x  1
  268 Light_Gray 30071.dat    Brick  1 x  1
   17 Dark_Gray  30071.dat    Brick  1 x  1
    9 Trans_Dark_Blue 3062b.dat    Brick  1 x  1 Round with Hollow Stud
    9 Trans_Red  3062b.dat    Brick  1 x  1 Round with Hollow Stud
    8 Trans_Neon_Green 3062b.dat    Brick  1 x  1 Round with Hollow Stud
    1 Trans_Dark_Blue 3062a.dat    Brick  1 x  1 Round with Solid Stud
    1 Trans_Red  3062a.dat    Brick  1 x  1 Round with Solid Stud
  188 Light_Gray u9026.dat    Brick  1 x  1 Round without Groove
    2 Dark_Turquoise 4070.dat     Brick  1 x  1 with Headlight
   62 Light_Gray 4070.dat     Brick  1 x  1 with Headlight
    2 Light_Gray 2453.dat     Brick  1 x  1 x  5
    4 Dark_Turquoise 3004.dat     Brick  1 x  2
  361 Light_Gray 3004.dat     Brick  1 x  2
  229 Dark_Gray  3004.dat     Brick  1 x  2
   20 Light_Gray 30136.dat    Brick  1 x  2 Log
   16 Light_Gray 52107.dat    Brick  1 x  2 with Studs on Sides
  102 Light_Gray 3245a.dat    Brick  1 x  2 x  2
    2 Light_Gray 772.dat      Brick  1 x  2 x  2 without Centre Studs
    2 Dark_Turquoise 3622.dat     Brick  1 x  3
   18 Light_Gray 3622.dat     Brick  1 x  3
   29 Dark_Gray  3622.dat     Brick  1 x  3
  106 Light_Gray 3010.dat     Brick  1 x  4
  298 Dark_Gray  3010.dat     Brick  1 x  4
    8 Light_Gray 30414.dat    Brick  1 x  4 with Studs on Side
   37 Light_Gray 3009.dat     Brick  1 x  6
   27 Dark_Gray  3009.dat     Brick  1 x  6
   36 Light_Gray 3008.dat     Brick  1 x  8
   55 Dark_Gray  3008.dat     Brick  1 x  8
   20 Light_Gray 6111.dat     Brick  1 x 10
   86 Light_Gray 6112.dat     Brick  1 x 12
   12 Dark_Gray  6112.dat     Brick  1 x 12
    6 Light_Gray 4217.dat     Brick  1 x 14 with Groove
  461 Light_Gray 2465.dat     Brick  1 x 16
    4 Dark_Gray  2465.dat     Brick  1 x 16
 1553 Light_Gray 3003.dat     Brick  2 x  2
 1003 Dark_Gray  3003.dat     Brick  2 x  2
  218 Light_Gray 3941.dat     Brick  2 x  2 Round
    1 Trans_Yellow 3941.dat     Brick  2 x  2 Round
  240 Dark_Turquoise 30145.dat    Brick  2 x  2 x  3
  252 Light_Gray 30145.dat    Brick  2 x  2 x  3
  136 Dark_Gray  30145.dat    Brick  2 x  2 x  3
   89 Light_Gray 3002.dat     Brick  2 x  3
   84 Dark_Gray  3002.dat     Brick  2 x  3
  144 Dark_Turquoise 3001.dat     Brick  2 x  4
 2353 Light_Gray 3001.dat     Brick  2 x  4
 1944 Dark_Gray  3001.dat     Brick  2 x  4
  104 Dark_Gray  30144.dat    Brick  2 x  4 x  3
  359 Light_Gray 2456.dat     Brick  2 x  6
   85 Dark_Gray  2456.dat     Brick  2 x  6
   33 Light_Gray 44237.dat    Brick  2 x  6
   73 Dark_Gray  44237.dat    Brick  2 x  6
 1529 Dark_Turquoise 3007.dat     Brick  2 x  8
 1538 Light_Gray 3007.dat     Brick  2 x  8
 1044 Dark_Gray  3007.dat     Brick  2 x  8
 1297 Light_Gray 3006.dat     Brick  2 x 10
  272 Dark_Gray  3006.dat     Brick  2 x 10
   12 Light_Gray 2462.dat     Brick  3 x  3 Facet
    4 Dark_Turquoise 2356.dat     Brick  4 x  6
   36 Light_Gray 2356.dat     Brick  4 x  6
  280 Dark_Gray  2356.dat     Brick  4 x  6
   33 Light_Gray 44042.dat    Brick  4 x  6
    7 Dark_Gray  44042.dat    Brick  4 x  6
   86 Light_Gray 6212.dat     Brick  4 x 10
    6 Dark_Gray  6212.dat     Brick  4 x 10
   60 Light_Gray 4202.dat     Brick  4 x 12
   10 Dark_Gray  4202.dat     Brick  4 x 12
   24 Dark_Turquoise 30400.dat    Brick  4 x 18
   15 Light_Gray 30400.dat    Brick  4 x 18
   36 Dark_Gray  30400.dat    Brick  4 x 18
   22 Dark_Turquoise 4201.dat     Brick  8 x  8
    8 Dark_Gray  4201.dat     Brick  8 x  8
  132 Dark_Turquoise 4204.dat     Brick  8 x 16
   54 Light_Gray 4204.dat     Brick  8 x 16
   74 Dark_Gray  4204.dat     Brick  8 x 16
    5 Light_Gray 4589.dat     Cone  1 x  1
   12 Trans_Neon_Green 4589.dat     Cone  1 x  1
    1 Trans_Neon_Green 6188.dat     Cone  1 x  1
    6 Light_Gray 3942b.dat    Cone  2 x  2 x  2 with Hollow Stud and Axlehole Teeth
    1 Light_Gray 3943b.dat    Cone  4 x  4 x  2 with Axlehole
    1 Light_Gray 30151.dat    Cylinder  2 x  2 x  1 & 2/3 with Dome Top
   38 Light_Gray 6259.dat     Cylinder  2 x  4 x  4
    2 Trans_Red  6259.dat     Cylinder  2 x  4 x  4
    2 Light_Gray 4285b.dat    Dish  6 x  6 Inverted Webbed Type 2
  156 Trans_Medium_Blue 3855.dat     Glass for Window  1 x  4 x  3
   22 Dark_Gray  3937.dat     Hinge  1 x  2 Base
   22 Trans_Neon_Green 3937.dat     Hinge  1 x  2 Base
    2 Dark_Gray  3149d.dat    Hinge Plate  2 x  5 Base with Small Hole
    2 Dark_Gray  314d.dat     Hinge Plate  2 x  5 Top
    1 Light_Gray 30009.dat    Panel  1 x  2 x  3 with Hollow Studs
  120 Trans_Medium_Blue 30009.dat    Panel  1 x  2 x  3 with Hollow Studs
  129 Trans_Neon_Green 2466.dat     Panel  3 x  2 x  6
   16 Trans_Neon_Green 2468.dat     Panel  3 x  3 x  6 Corner Convex
    2 Dark_Gray  30320.dat    Panel 10 x 10 x  2 & 1/3 Quarter Saucer Top
    2 Trans_Neon_Green 30320.dat    Panel 10 x 10 x  2 & 1/3 Quarter Saucer Top
    4 Dark_Gray  30116.dat    Panel 14 x 14 x  2.667 Quarter Saucer Top
   26 Light_Gray 3024.dat     Plate  1 x  1
  140 Dark_Gray  3024.dat     Plate  1 x  1
    2 Trans_Green 4073.dat     Plate  1 x  1 Round
    4 Trans_Red  4073.dat     Plate  1 x  1 Round
   40 Trans_Neon_Green 4073.dat     Plate  1 x  1 Round
    2 Trans_Yellow 4073.dat     Plate  1 x  1 Round
    2 Trans_Clear 4073.dat     Plate  1 x  1 Round
  130 Light_Gray 3023.dat     Plate  1 x  2
   12 Trans_Neon_Green 3023.dat     Plate  1 x  2
   32 Light_Gray 3794a.dat    Plate  1 x  2 without Groove with 1 Centre Stud
   47 Light_Gray 3623.dat     Plate  1 x  3
   18 Dark_Gray  3623.dat     Plate  1 x  3
   15 Light_Gray 3710.dat     Plate  1 x  4
   33 Dark_Gray  3710.dat     Plate  1 x  4
    4 Trans_Red  3710.dat     Plate  1 x  4
    5 Trans_Neon_Green 3710.dat     Plate  1 x  4
   37 Light_Gray 3666.dat     Plate  1 x  6
   94 Dark_Gray  3666.dat     Plate  1 x  6
    1 Trans_Neon_Green 3666.dat     Plate  1 x  6
   20 Dark_Gray  6583.dat     Plate  1 x  6 with Train Wagon End
   27 Light_Gray 3460.dat     Plate  1 x  8
  166 Dark_Gray  3460.dat     Plate  1 x  8
    2 Trans_Neon_Green 3460.dat     Plate  1 x  8
   10 Light_Gray 4477.dat     Plate  1 x 10
    5 Dark_Gray  4477.dat     Plate  1 x 10
   70 Light_Gray 60479.dat    Plate  1 x 12
   81 Dark_Gray  60479.dat    Plate  1 x 12
   14 Trans_Neon_Green 60479.dat    Plate  1 x 12
   58 Light_Gray 3022.dat     Plate  2 x  2
    9 Dark_Gray  3022.dat     Plate  2 x  2
   18 Light_Gray 2420.dat     Plate  2 x  2 Corner
   72 Trans_Clear 4032a.dat    Plate  2 x  2 Round with Axlehole Type 1
   28 Light_Gray 3021.dat     Plate  2 x  3
   14 Dark_Gray  3021.dat     Plate  2 x  3
   15 Light_Gray 3020.dat     Plate  2 x  4
   24 Dark_Gray  3020.dat     Plate  2 x  4
    1 Trans_Neon_Green 3020.dat     Plate  2 x  4
   18 Light_Gray 3795.dat     Plate  2 x  6
   37 Dark_Gray  3795.dat     Plate  2 x  6
    1 Trans_Neon_Green 3795.dat     Plate  2 x  6
   23 Light_Gray 3034.dat     Plate  2 x  8
   12 Dark_Gray  3034.dat     Plate  2 x  8
    2 Trans_Neon_Green 3034.dat     Plate  2 x  8
   16 Light_Gray 3832.dat     Plate  2 x 10
    7 Dark_Gray  3832.dat     Plate  2 x 10
   44 Light_Gray 2445.dat     Plate  2 x 12
    1 Dark_Gray  2445.dat     Plate  2 x 12
    8 Trans_Neon_Green 2445.dat     Plate  2 x 12
   91 Light_Gray 4282.dat     Plate  2 x 16
   63 Dark_Gray  4282.dat     Plate  2 x 16
    4 Trans_Neon_Green 4282.dat     Plate  2 x 16
    2 Light_Gray 2450.dat     Plate  3 x  3 without Corner
    6 Dark_Gray  2450.dat     Plate  3 x  3 without Corner
   24 Dark_Turquoise 3031.dat     Plate  4 x  4
   18 Light_Gray 3031.dat     Plate  4 x  4
    2 Light_Gray 30503.dat    Plate  4 x  4 without Corner
    8 Dark_Gray  30503.dat    Plate  4 x  4 without Corner
   36 Light_Gray 3032.dat     Plate  4 x  6
   92 Dark_Gray  3032.dat     Plate  4 x  6
   49 Light_Gray 3035.dat     Plate  4 x  8
   33 Dark_Gray  3035.dat     Plate  4 x  8
   15 Light_Gray 3030.dat     Plate  4 x 10
    5 Dark_Gray  3030.dat     Plate  4 x 10
  157 Light_Gray 3029.dat     Plate  4 x 12
  149 Dark_Gray  3029.dat     Plate  4 x 12
    2 Trans_Neon_Green 3029.dat     Plate  4 x 12
   43 Light_Gray 3958.dat     Plate  6 x  6
   30 Dark_Gray  3958.dat     Plate  6 x  6
  100 Light_Gray 3036.dat     Plate  6 x  8
   12 Dark_Gray  3036.dat     Plate  6 x  8
  504 Light_Gray 3033.dat     Plate  6 x 10
   19 Dark_Gray  3033.dat     Plate  6 x 10
   19 Light_Gray 3028.dat     Plate  6 x 12
    8 Dark_Gray  3028.dat     Plate  6 x 12
    2 Trans_Neon_Green 3028.dat     Plate  6 x 12
  211 Light_Gray 3456.dat     Plate  6 x 14
   25 Dark_Gray  3456.dat     Plate  6 x 14
  235 Light_Gray 3027.dat     Plate  6 x 16
   68 Dark_Gray  3027.dat     Plate  6 x 16
  277 Light_Gray 3026.dat     Plate  6 x 24
  149 Dark_Gray  3026.dat     Plate  6 x 24
   10 Light_Gray 41539.dat    Plate  8 x  8
  118 Dark_Gray  41539.dat    Plate  8 x  8
    6 Dark_Gray  4151b.dat    Plate  8 x  8 with Grille and Hole
   11 Dark_Gray  6063.dat     Plate 10 x 10 Octagonal Open Center
    3 Dark_Gray  2642.dat     Platform 16 x 16 x  2 & 1/3 Ramp
  280 Dark_Gray  30363.dat    Slope Brick 18  4 x  2
   12 Light_Gray 85984.dat    Slope Brick 31  1 x  2 x  0.667
  164 Light_Gray 4286.dat     Slope Brick 33  3 x  1
  115 Light_Gray 4287.dat     Slope Brick 33  3 x  1 Inverted
    3 Dark_Gray  4287.dat     Slope Brick 33  3 x  1 Inverted
   16 Dark_Turquoise 3298.dat     Slope Brick 33  3 x  2
  956 Light_Gray 3298.dat     Slope Brick 33  3 x  2
  400 Dark_Gray  3298.dat     Slope Brick 33  3 x  2
    2 Dark_Turquoise 3747a.dat    Slope Brick 33  3 x  2 Inverted without Ribs between Studs
 8502 Light_Gray 3747a.dat    Slope Brick 33  3 x  2 Inverted without Ribs between Studs
 1842 Dark_Gray  3747a.dat    Slope Brick 33  3 x  2 Inverted without Ribs between Studs
   37 Light_Gray 4161.dat     Slope Brick 33  3 x  3
    2 Light_Gray 3675.dat     Slope Brick 33  3 x  3 Double Convex
  120 Dark_Turquoise 3297.dat     Slope Brick 33  3 x  4
 2599 Light_Gray 3297.dat     Slope Brick 33  3 x  4
 1804 Dark_Gray  3297.dat     Slope Brick 33  3 x  4
   10 Light_Gray 3040b.dat    Slope Brick 45  2 x  1
    4 Light_Gray 3665.dat     Slope Brick 45  2 x  1 Inverted
   32 Light_Gray 3039.dat     Slope Brick 45  2 x  2
   10 Dark_Gray  3039.dat     Slope Brick 45  2 x  2
    4 Dark_Gray  3046.dat     Slope Brick 45  2 x  2 Double Concave
    2 Light_Gray 3045.dat     Slope Brick 45  2 x  2 Double Convex
   16 Dark_Gray  3045.dat     Slope Brick 45  2 x  2 Double Convex
    2 Dark_Turquoise 3660.dat     Slope Brick 45  2 x  2 Inverted
  153 Light_Gray 3660.dat     Slope Brick 45  2 x  2 Inverted
   48 Dark_Gray  3660.dat     Slope Brick 45  2 x  2 Inverted
    4 Light_Gray 3039p23.dat  Slope Brick 45  2 x  2 with Computer Screen Pattern
    4 Light_Gray 3039p58.dat  Slope Brick 45  2 x  2 with Divers Computer Pattern
    4 Light_Gray 3039p15.dat  Slope Brick 45  2 x  2 with Space Display Pattern
    2 Light_Gray 3038.dat     Slope Brick 45  2 x  3
    8 Light_Gray 3037.dat     Slope Brick 45  2 x  4
   26 Dark_Gray  3037.dat     Slope Brick 45  2 x  4
   60 Dark_Turquoise 4445.dat     Slope Brick 45  2 x  8
   23 Light_Gray 4445.dat     Slope Brick 45  2 x  8
    8 Dark_Gray  4445.dat     Slope Brick 45  2 x  8
    4 Dark_Gray  30180.dat    Slope Brick 45 10 x  2 x  2 Double
  139 Light_Gray 3678b.dat    Slope Brick 65  2 x  2 x  2 with Centre Tube
  224 Dark_Gray  3678b.dat    Slope Brick 65  2 x  2 x  2 with Centre Tube
  160 Dark_Turquoise 4460.dat     Slope Brick 75  2 x  1 x  3
 1342 Light_Gray 4460.dat     Slope Brick 75  2 x  1 x  3
  888 Dark_Gray  4460.dat     Slope Brick 75  2 x  1 x  3
    6 Trans_Red  4460.dat     Slope Brick 75  2 x  1 x  3
 3040 Dark_Turquoise 2449.dat     Slope Brick 75  2 x  1 x  3 Inverted
 5148 Light_Gray 2449.dat     Slope Brick 75  2 x  1 x  3 Inverted
 3438 Dark_Gray  2449.dat     Slope Brick 75  2 x  1 x  3 Inverted
   26 Dark_Turquoise 30499.dat    Slope Brick 75  2 x  2 x  3
 1617 Light_Gray 30499.dat    Slope Brick 75  2 x  2 x  3
   91 Dark_Gray  30499.dat    Slope Brick 75  2 x  2 x  3
  118 Dark_Turquoise 3684.dat     Slope Brick 75  2 x  2 x  3
  378 Light_Gray 3684.dat     Slope Brick 75  2 x  2 x  3
  111 Dark_Gray  3684.dat     Slope Brick 75  2 x  2 x  3
  136 Light_Gray 3685.dat     Slope Brick 75  2 x  2 x  3 Double Convex
    4 Dark_Gray  3685.dat     Slope Brick 75  2 x  2 x  3 Double Convex
   12 Dark_Turquoise 2342.dat     Space Control Panel (needs work)
    4 Light_Gray 3940.dat     Space Stand  2 x  2 x  2
    6 Light_Gray 2580c01.dat  Support  2 x  2 x  5 Lattice Pillar (Complete)
   10 Dark_Gray  2580c01.dat  Support  2 x  2 x  5 Lattice Pillar (Complete)
   44 Dark_Gray  30646.dat    Support  2 x  2 x  8 Girder
    8 Dark_Gray  75535.dat    Technic Pin Joiner Round
   32 Dark_Turquoise 2412b.dat    Tile  1 x  2 Grille with Groove
   10 White      2412b.dat    Tile  1 x  2 Grille with Groove
   32 Trans_Neon_Green 2412b.dat    Tile  1 x  2 Grille with Groove
    6 Dark_Turquoise 30244.dat    Tile  1 x  2 Grille with Groove
    5 Light_Gray 30244.dat    Tile  1 x  2 Grille with Groove
   18 White      30244.dat    Tile  1 x  2 Grille with Groove
    4 Trans_Neon_Green 30244.dat    Tile  1 x  2 Grille with Groove
   96 Trans_Medium_Blue 3069a.dat    Tile  1 x  2 without Groove
   12 Trans_Neon_Green 3069a.dat    Tile  1 x  2 without Groove
  126 Dark_Turquoise 3068b.dat    Tile  2 x  2 with Groove
    1 Dark_Turquoise 3068a.dat    Tile  2 x  2 without Groove
    1 Dark_Gray  73603.dat    Turntable  4 x  4 (Complete)
  156 Light_Gray 60594.dat    Window  1 x  4 x  3 without Shutter Tabs
   16 Dark_Gray  604.dat      Window  1 x  6 x  3 Panorama
    6 Trans_Medium_Blue 4872.dat     Windscreen  3 x  4 x  4 Inverted
   11 Dark_Gray  2598.dat     Windscreen 10 x 10 x  4 Octagonal Canopy
   27 Trans_Neon_Green 2598.dat     Windscreen 10 x 10 x  4 Octagonal Canopy
   96 Light_Gray 3063b.dat    
 

 

Development Story (original Text from 2011 + 2013 Update):

Hi,

I want to show you my LMS Explorer MOC, which is maybe the best recreation of the Rock Raiders colony/miningship I`ve seen so far on the internet.

The crazy idea began around christmas last year, when I was playing LEGO Rock Raiders again after many years and watching the intro and the outro.
My first thoughts were: "Hmm, had someone from LEGO or another person ever build a 1:1 scale model of this ship? This would be very cool".
After searching some minutes on the internet the final assumption was: There was no L.M.S. Explorer model in the original size yet. Maybe some people

hat started with the construction and gave up, because it was too big, too expensive, too complicated etc.
That was the moment I had the idea that building this spaceship myself would be a funny idea. I had enough time and started with this crazy project on my computer.

Phase 1 "Okay, lets start!":
In the beginning I downloaded the LEGO Digital Designer from the LEGO Company itself, because it seemed to be the easiest way to start. The reason for this

were the easy controls and the possibility to build with a high speed, but there were also problems like non available pieces or pieces in certain colors.

At this moment I hadn´t figured out the biggest problem. I will tell you later.
Beneath a contruction program I needed picture sources too, because the LMS Explorer is a very big ship, it´s difficult to see all the details etc.,

if you watch the videos only a few times.
So I decided to look on youtube and began watching the intro and outro over and over, while I was building the ship in the LDD (LEGO Digital Designer).
The hardest part is to figure out, how long or high the different parts are, but with some exercise you will get it. Then you will know for example "Hmm, this

could only be a 1*2*3 panel. That means that this section is 48 studs long and three bricks high" and other stuff. All in all it´s just trial and error (or more

errors than trials in the beginning ;) ).

Phase 2 "Oh, that´s very "funny". Now I have to look for new solutions":
A month later the ship had around 16.000 pieces, but now the real "fun" (aka "Aaargh, WTF?!" or eternal damnation) began: LDD crashed more and more,

because the number of pieces was too high. With some tricks (lower details etc.) I came to a limit of ~18.000 bricks, but the program crashed again and

again (and again and again :D ), when I was adding just one brick.
I concluded that I needed a better program to continue. There were only two interessing programs: LDraw and LeoCAD
I took the last one (maybe it was a mistake, because some colors were missing and it was much slower than MLCAD, but in my opinion it has the easier controls).
After this decision I tried to convert the LDD file in a lcd (LeoCAD)-file, but it wasn´t successful. The "pleasure" to build the whole ship in LeoCAD again wasn´t

very funny, but it gave me the advantage to change some construction mistakes, which I made in the LDD-Version.

Phase 3 "Building and building and building..."
It think that this decribes the situation very well, because you will know (while watching the videos on and on :D ), how to build the different sections of the ship.
Sometimes the programm crashed (I don´t know, if it depends on the number of additional pieces, because it crashed sometimes after thousands of pieces or

only after five new bricks).

Phase 4 "Almost finished"
Now the ships contains (October 2011 is near^^) around 57.300 bricks (and it´s just the hull) and LeoCAD crashes very often, but I can still continue.

I will have only a few, but optional, things to do:
-changing the five slope rows on top of the ship front
-changing the black area in front of the brigde
-maybe changing the engines (they look a bit to small, but it´s hard to figure out the right scale)
-adding the teleporter
(-export the ship to MLCAD and changing the colors of almost all bricks, because the ships is brighter in reality. That means for example:

turguoise(I can choose this color only in MLCAD) instead of green etc.).

 

[Edit from 2013-05-09]: the only thing, that I've done from the points above is the reclouring part. I don't know, if I will do things like adding the teleporter etc. The reason is, that LeoCAD is too slow, MLCAD too complicated and LDD needs too much resources. Maybe it's easier to build a 3D-model with a real 3D program. The advantage would be, that you can probably use a obj-file for things like a new intro etc., which is much more useful.

Maybe I will realise only one point, because it´s getting very boring to complete the ship, but I think that´s okay:D.

Here are some data (I used the dimension tool in MLCAD) from the ship:
Length: 975 studs/ 773,44 cm/ 304,51 in.
Width: 134 studs/ 106,38 cm/ 41,88 in.
Height: 133 studs/ 104,93 cm/ 41,31 in.
pieces: 57.397 (with a stable inner construction it would have 300.000 and more pieces and if you would build rooms with details for the hole crew

(2000 until 3000 rock raiders in my opinion), it would contain one million until two million pieces.
building time: 9 months (or 10/11 in the end)
weight: in reality it would be very heavy. Maybe 200 kg/ 441 lb. or more:D

Update [2013-10-06]: I didn't really work on the model since Oct 2011, because that was very slow and boring. I also slightly updated computer (new OS and a SSD) and somehow I can't even load it in LeoCAD. The only option is MLCAD, but I don't really like the controls of this program.
There are also good news: I replaced the old pictures with POV-Ray renders, which look much better (I always thought, that it was impossible, because don't have much memory, but it worked anyways :D).

 

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Separate Bridge Model In LDD

Here are some images from my seperate LDD bridge model which looks much better than the bridge in my 1:1 LMS Explorer model or the early separate bridge model.

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Main video sources, which were extremely helpful and I used to watch again and again (and often freezed to look at a single frame):
Lego Rock Raiders Intro Movie uploaded by rockraider13:

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Lair is going to die from happiness when he sees this. He is currently working on just the bridge and getting it as accurate as possible, but you have the entire thing here. Top shelf!

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Thank you :) .

I have seen the two LMS pictures in Lair`s gallery and his attempt is better than mine :) (my first version of the bridge in LDD was too big, so I build a smaller version :lol: ).

Maybe I should post pictures from the LDD LMS Explorer version and the building progress too.

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Wow. That's epic.

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Lair is going to die from happiness when he sees this. He is currently working on just the bridge and getting it as accurate as possible, but you have the entire thing here. Top shelf!

Actually, I'm more mad that I wasn't the first to build it, and that my estimation of 100,000 bricks was twice the actual size. Oh well.

Anyways, wow. This is a true masterpiece. Except the color is all wrong. The teal things are green for some reason. Don't give me that garbage about LeoCad not having teal, it does. Also the hull is light grey aside from a few stripes (the giant flat parts of the bridge), and you colored the silver bricks white unless it rendered like that. Could you get more pictures of the close-up areas? If you can, add Chief's chair in.

You even got the size right. The minimodel I made was too long and skinny. :|

...Well. I don't really have anything to say, Just...epic.

ALSO Watch the EXTENDED Rock Raiders intro on youtube.

Mmm... you've got a small flaw in your bridge at the base, it only has 11 windows instead of 12... oh well.

Edit again: You used green flat bricks where a green elbowed pipe should be used in the bridge, which does exist in leocad. Also in the back of the bridge the elevator shaft is seperated from the slope. Your bridge design is a little messed up in places (well I'm apparently blind lol, but really I think the shaft is different? Please correct me if I'm wrong). I'm being critical of small flaws, but that doesn't mean I'm complaining. I'm just trying to help. The fact you even made this yourself is just epic.

[removed because I'm a dipweed who doesn't even know where he got info from]

I give you a :af: :af: :af: :af: :af: :af: :af: :af: :af: x9001

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That is the most awesome thing I've seen today.

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Your opinion is incorrect. From what I know, it has a crew of around one thousand. It probably could hold twothousand, but they don't want to overcrowd it.

On what moon did you find that information.

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It's not a spam post, it's a legitimate question. Cite your sources, otherwise it is your opinion that is wrong. Besides, the majority of your first post in this topic was negative criticism rather than praise, so it seems that it's okay to not "congratulate the OC on his work".

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Great job! Now build it IRL.

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This is fantastic. I wonder how much DesignByMe would state it would cost to buy the model for real life?

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@Lair:

Okay, you are right :lol: . There is Turqoise in LeoCAD. I don´t know, why I used the wrong colors. Maybe I thought "Hmm, I had build 10.000 pieces yet and used the wrong colors... ...aargh, I´m too lazy to recoloring the whole thing. I will do this later"

Jeah, I can do this now and recoloring is easy, but there are ~57.000 bricks in wrong colors.

for the bridge:

Here is another problem: Maybe it is more logical if there will be 11 windows instead 12, but in the outro it looks like 12. The low resolution of the video can be a reason.

And yes, there are round elbowed pieces... .... which I dicovered after finishing the bridge :lol: .

I searched shaft parts in LeoCAD, but I didn´t find the original ones.

Summary:

Thanks for your constructive critisizm and your comment. The general problem is that LeoCAD gets really slow with a higher piece number and adding or changing pieces can be really annoying, but I will try to realize the following points:

[x]find and destroy atlantis;) (just a joke, but some people will remember this point from Homer Simpson´s to-do list :lol: )

[ ]adding the teleporter

[ ]recolor the whole ship

[ ]correct some flaws etc.

[ ]adding other things ( e.g.: Chief´s chair)

[x]watching the extended version (I think it was August 2011). This is a good tipp, because the video show a lot of details in higher resolution etc. (e.g. the teleporter etc.).

[ ]adding other tasks to this list :lol:

P.S.: My crew number is just a long guess and my Rock Raider manual have been broken after a few years and I lost it later, so I don´t know, where I can find a reliable source for this information. Maybe you got this information from the manual, but I really want to know the crew number of the whole ship :) .

P.P.S.: Changing the colors in MLCAD will be easier (there is a list with every single piece in the model), but it´s a crazy task too :lol: .

@Toot etc.: Thank you :) . The main problem is that building the L.M.S. Explorer in real life means:

lots of parts--->lots of money ( 20.000€ and more) or sponsoring

Maybe I should try to contact the LEGO Company, but I don´t know, if they would be interested in this project.

P.S.: LDD crashed at 18.000 piecesand the price at this point was around 2500 until 3000 €

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I don't see how they're relevant at all, as I was giving lots of constrctive critisizm while our chairman completally ignored the existance of his work.

Just because my first post in this topic is not a comment on his creation doesn't mean I'm ignoring it at all. Perhaps I intend to write a bigger reply later... Or maybe I saw someone saying Arthurie's opinion of how many raiders would fit into the ship was wrong, and trying to push their baseless opinion on him.

And, question? I thought he was saying something about moons.

If you think I was talking about moons than you really did not understand my question at all. 'On what moon' is a simple exaggeration/saying of 'where did you find'. Here is a Simple English version of my question: "Where did you find information on how many Rock Raiders would fit inside the L.M.S"?

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Aargh, I recolored 15 pieces yet, but then Leo CAD crashed. That means a veeery long recoloring time and in MLCAD I have to change every single bricks too :lol: . I hope that I will find a solution to select lots of bricks and recoloring them all in one step.

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And, question? I thought he was saying something about moons.

1. If you think I was talking about moons than you really did not understand my question at all.

2. Here is a Simple English version of my question: "Where did you find information on how many Rock Raiders would fit inside the L.M.S"?

1. Herp derp :P

2. I, um... I'm pretty certain I saw it in a manuel or a bo.... I'm sure I saw it in some Rock Raiders source but I... can't remember where, so frost me and ignore anything I say >.<

Yeah, after you said that, I realized I didn't remember where I saw that. As far as we know it could be another monsters farting over purple crystals thing. I know it can hold hundreds to thousands, but now I realize I've been giving out info I thought was fact and now realize I don't remember where I got it from. Frost me >_<

Arthuriel, I crossed out the window part for a reason. You got that right, there's a wierd jut at the bottom. My point on the elevator still stands. Can you hide the areas you're not working on and fix it one area at a time or something? I can help on spots on the bridge if you are willing to take it or need it at all.

Now what I DO know is that they at least built the bridge in real life. Seeing how accuratley sized the ship is, I wouldn't doubt that they built the whole thing too. Jamesster says they've built things like this one giant tower from an old comic IRL, so why not this? Whether or not it's still assembled it another matter.

Aargh, I recolored 15 pieces yet, but then Leo CAD crashed. That means a veeery long recoloring time and in MLCAD I have to change every single bricks too :lol: . I hope that I will find a solution to select lots of bricks and recoloring them all in one step.

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Okay, I found two scenes, where you can see the back of the bridge:

Extended intro 2:03 - 2:08

Outro (travel without warp drive) 0:43-0:48

In my opinion the first one is better and it looks a bit like a seperated (3-4 studs) shaft in a brighter color, but it´s difficult to find out, because of the low resolution.

Hmm, I can group the bridge parts, but I had never done that, because it wasn`t necessary. The main problem will be the ex- and import part (high piece number-->high probability for crashes during importing). That means that it will be easier, when I do the few changes on my computer.

P.S.: It would be very cool, if there are still pictures from a real bridge or the whole ship :lol: (aargh, almost 8 m long O_O ).

P.P.S.: Hiding pieces... ...maybe it´s possible, but I will have to figure that out.

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Really you need the size of the elevator before you can make the shaft. It's difficult because it's inconsistant between two scenes. You know how there is a row of grid plates that the door slides on? You might need to add a second row despite what it shows there because we later see that's part of the elevator. I don't know, you be the judge of that.

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just noticed you don't have the teleporters in the underside

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I already wrote in the first post that I am going to add some things like the teleporter etc., because the ship isn`t finished yet.

I found two scenes which shows the elevator: 5:28 and 5:40 in the extended intro. I think the evalator is 6 studs deep, 12 studs wide and ~6 bricks high.

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Well done, Arthuriel. This is very impressive. Good job.

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I already wrote in the first post that I am going to add some things like the teleporter etc., because the ship isn`t finished yet.

I found two scenes which shows the elevator: 5:28 and 5:40 in the extended intro. I think the evalator is 6 studs deep, 12 studs wide and ~6 bricks high.

There were waves six bricks high!

THat sounds about right... or maybe not, I don't know. The red and green panels make it feel like it's eight bricks deep, so I'm not sure. It's got a flat brick as a roof though.

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Here's the model. It shows bricks I've never seen before. If we can get someone from LEGO to show us all the photos...

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@Lair: Okay, this is the prove for the bridge model e342154.png . ( I hope that there are more pictures from TLG e342158.png ).

Now i will modify the bridge, because there are some mistakes (wrong colors etc.):
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P.S.: Aaargh, LeoCAD is really slow and MLCAD has complicated controls e342160.png .

P.P.S.: Hmm, I was coloring the floor tiles (~15 bricks) when the program crashed. In general that means a really slow advancement and lots of "fun" (changing 5 -10 bricks, saving, changing 5-10 bricks, saving, program crashes etc.). Maybe I should make a break or I will continue this with a slow speed. The best solution would be, if I already had the whole bricks in real life, but that means that I need a sponsor (TLG^^?) or lots of money.


for further explanation of "fun" I recommend the following article from magmawiki (it´s a wiki for the game Dwarf Fortress, which I sometimes play):
http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Fun

@antilles: Thank you. I am glad that there are many people who like my project e342154.png.

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Yeah, there needs to be a shaft for the elevator, whatever size it is. Look at it in both its appearances and judge for yourself. Beware of where the doors are. Also look at the front of the Explorer (I have a good picture if you need) (It's just that I think that big dish is just grey but this image may be outdated).

Keep the good work. Tell me if you need help with anything.

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I had some problems with the front dish, because in my opinion it looks like that e342158.png :
transparent-blue+ a bit transparent purple + grey = WTF?! (Maybe I should play dice to determine the color 1267677175.png )

I also compared the bridge room from LEGO with my recreation and I think that my one is 2 or 4 studges too long. If it is 2 studges too long, I can build a smaller shaft. If it is 4 studges too long, I don´t need a shaft (aargh, too many contradictions^^).

PS: Hmm, there are only 27 views on the site of my LMS Explorer project on mocpages until now. I hope that more people are going to watch this thing e342154.png : http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/289436

PPS: Help? Yes, I need a program, which is stable, can handle ~57.000 bricks and is very fast. I can do all this changes at the LMS Explorer, but LeoCAD is extremly slow at this brick number and MLCAD is a bit faster, but it has ugly controls. It´s easier (and faster) to build this ship in reality with a inner construction than building this thing in program e342158.png.

PPPS: I built just for fun the bridge in a new file, because I wanted to know, how fast LeoCAD can be and after ~25 minutes I had contructed the following thing (the speed difference overwhelmed me e342163.png ):
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Problem: I made this screenshot, because the program crashed at this moment e342155.png

PPPPS: Okay, I have build the bridge and it contains 1049 bricks. Lair, we were both wrong, because the evalator is 7 studges deep and not 6 or 8^^. The base of the chair looks in the extended intro (1:56 - 1:58) more like dark grey, but in the real life version like light grey. The shell seems to be light grey (there are also some dark grey pieces) and the quality of the pictures is a bit low. Maybe it is the intern screenshot programm from LDView, which causes that (I took JPEG, because BMP etc. would be too big).
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Can you please post the picture instead of linking to the gallery entry?

Anyways it looks better except the elevator. There isn't any room for the sliding doors in your model. Also I'd make it an octagon because that's what it is anywhere except that one scene, but that's your decision. Maybe it was error on their part.

I never saw those green pillars in the elevator O_O

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