legodude Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I have basic measurements for the basic LEGO bricks, but I was wondering how they made all those LEGO parts in 3D, especially the complex ones. I can't find those measurements anywhere. Here's my first attempt at making bricks myself (I have all various sizes from the bricks shown in the pictures) - I can't proceed without proper measurements, I want to help creating some (low) poly models for RR. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 What did you use to make these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legodude Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 What did you use to make these? Autodesk 3ds Max 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoctor Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 O.o...that is...very good. You forgot the lego text on the studs though. I guess if you had some calipers you could get the measurements for some of the others. Wait... Can that open .DAT files? I think thats what MLCad uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legodude Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 O.o...that is...very good. You forgot the lego text on the studs though. I guess if you had some calipers you could get the measurements for some of the others. Wait... Can that open .DAT files? I think thats what MLCad uses. Well the .DAT files consist of endless lines of coordinates and angles, nothing that is of use to me. The real question is how did they obtain the dimensions for the bricks from which they created the .DAT files in the first place? I e-mailed some guy at the LDRAW helpdesk I'm hoping I'll get a reply within the week. Also I kinda avoided the LEGO text on the studs, they would eat away a huge amount of polygons so I'll probably render those to a texture and stick 'em up the diffuse map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoctor Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Well at least draw then on or something. Just a flat image is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legodude Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 ? What do you mean, I need the dimensions in millimeters or they won't align properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 He's talking about the LEGO text. I've been thinking of a super-precise ruler... Let me think a bit more, and I might post it here :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legodude Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 Yea but some parts are almost impossible to measure with rulers, especially the ones with curves in them etc. (not to mention they have to be exact to the tenth of a millimeter) I just wonder how those guys made the LDRAW bricks, they must have had some measurements of the brick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legodude Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 I did the baseplate for some of the Rock Raider vehicles, as you can see some small details are missing because I don't have their measurements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoctor Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I found something that might help a bit. http://orionrobots.co.uk/tiki-index.php?page=Lego+Specifications There also might be something here: http://www.ldraw.org/Article292.html I'll look into finding more specifications for the bricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legodude Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 I found something that might help a bit. http://orionrobots.co.uk/tiki-index.php?page=Lego+Specifications There also might be something here: http://www.ldraw.org/Article292.html I'll look into finding more specifications for the bricks. Thanks but you don't have to do that, I searched for a whole day long and I found nothing but the basic measurements only. There's not even one post about how they are making those LDRAW bricks. I'll just wait for a reply to my E-mail I sent to them, if I'll get any at all that is. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cirevam Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 You know when the Blockland community made bricks they just did it themselves without taking measurements and all that. It's not that hard to pick up a piece, find its length, width and height in studs, and do any other details on your own if they're too complex to be described in an equation. There aren't that many bricks that break the standardized units of measure, and the ones that do are usually Technic variants or one-offs anyways. You know the dimensions of a 1x1 brick, you know basic geometry and most likely trigonometry as well, and you know AutoCAD, so you can make practically any brick as long as you have it in front of you. Also, I don't see anything wrong with that baseplate except for the lack of axles, so I really don't see what the problem is. If I could convert .dts files to something else I would so I could give you some of the various Blockland bricks, but I don't know of such a converter. And I'm not talking about Retail, I mean the 0002 mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legodude Posted April 13, 2010 Author Share Posted April 13, 2010 You know when the Blockland community made bricks they just did it themselves without taking measurements and all that. It's not that hard to pick up a piece, find its length, width and height in studs, and do any other details on your own if they're too complex to be described in an equation. There aren't that many bricks that break the standardized units of measure, and the ones that do are usually Technic variants or one-offs anyways. You know the dimensions of a 1x1 brick, you know basic geometry and most likely trigonometry as well, and you know AutoCAD, so you can make practically any brick as long as you have it in front of you. Also, I don't see anything wrong with that baseplate except for the lack of axles, so I really don't see what the problem is. If I could convert .dts files to something else I would so I could give you some of the various Blockland bricks, but I don't know of such a converter. And I'm not talking about Retail, I mean the 0002 mods. I'm not sure if I have any LEGO in the house, if I had them infront of me then I could probably work with it a little better. I'd need pictures of each component etc. As for the baseplate I made, the axles are indeed missing but if you look at them in the manual they are quite complex. Well I started myself on the thingy's at the side of the baseplate, I only know their lenght so the rest (radius, the holes in it) is guessed from pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legodude Posted April 13, 2010 Author Share Posted April 13, 2010 update on the Chrome Crusher: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoctor Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 The axles look perfect, but the studs still get me. They look like some fake arse not lego bricks I have. But thats not important now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Nice! [spoilered because the pics are huge] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legodude Posted April 13, 2010 Author Share Posted April 13, 2010 The studs are actually perfect because I have their measurements from the original LEGO bricks. I just finished the front part of the Chrome Crusher, this is without a doubt one of the hardest components to model in the set (it's not 100% perfect but it's in terms of size it's perfect) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Looking awesome, can't wait for the final thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legodude Posted April 13, 2010 Author Share Posted April 13, 2010 It's going to take a while before I finish it, but I'll keep posting updates when I progress. I'll also post in spoilers next time. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Removed the images because the links didn't work - upload them in your gallery please :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legodude Posted April 13, 2010 Author Share Posted April 13, 2010 Huh? They work fine on the other forum I posted them on - ImageShack is one of the best (if not THE best) image uploaders on the web, their links always work and images are never deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 And they discriminate against anyone outside the US Upload them on the RRU Gallery please and make it easier for all of us. Sorry for the impolite removal. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theextractor Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 this is becoming incrementally more and more epic. that will be one freaking high quality CC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legodude Posted April 13, 2010 Author Share Posted April 13, 2010 Huh? They work fine on the other forum I posted them on - ImageShack is one of the best (if not THE best) image uploaders on the web, their links always work and images are never deleted. Hmm I love in Holland and it has always worked fine, I'll upload to my gallery aswell next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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