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Experimenting.... Failure


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$4.00/Gal. Wow, now I'm seeing all these stupid priuses (or priui?) again. And the drivers are SLOW AS FUDGE WITH A CHERRY. Last weekend, I swapped out the 28 gallon petrol tank, to a 55 gal. I decide to get a full tank of petrol.

4x55=$220.00

I can run about 800 miles on a full tank.

~17mpg

Realizing the price of petrol now, I start an experiment with Ethanol 85; that new thing everybody talks about. On a full tank of Ethanol, now $300 (about $5.45/gal). Assuming from the price, this was a better value. WRONG.

5.45x55=$300

So far, I've went 80 miles, and I'm running about 7/8 tank, an estimated 570 mile range. And there's a noticeable drop in acceleration, and horsepower.

~9mpg

Talk about a grinding ripoff! I just wasted $80 on useless fuel. What exactly are you gaining from using Ethanol over petrol? That is the question.

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I'd be assuming that it might be in the engine that isn't exactly made to take ethanol...you'd never know, but I'm sure if you compared another car with an ethanol tank they could do similar stats...

Shame about the wasted cash too...cash I could have got...

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Go multifuel deisel, them can throw in any flammible liquid so long as the fuel pump can pump it.

That is why I'm such a fan of gas tubines, very high power to weight ratios, don't care what you put in them so long as they can burn it fast enough and hot enough, and gives the user the excuse "Sorry, I can't get enough power to even move if you put that on me, EPA." (Too high of a back pressure can cause a flame out.)

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TMLC is right. Diesel can handle pure biofuel without any modifications, but gasoline engines usually don't like ethanol, and putting pure biofuel into them wrecks the engine. My car doesn't seem to care what I put in it, but I'm sure it wouldn't handle E85 that well either. And to answer the question of "what do we get by using ethanol over petrol" the answer is increased food prices if they're making it with corn and using more land for corn production. A similar question could be asked about electric cars, and the answer is that the pollution is moved somewhere else. You can't win with alternative energy sources.

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Multifuel deisel engines are different from the ones in your car or truck. They are almost as flexible as gas turbines in that they will tolorate gasoline, alcohol, just about any flammible liquid. Gas turbines don't really care at all about what you put in them, so long as it can go through the injectors. They're also very simple, so keeping them up isn't that hard.

You will also need to change out ALL of the parts that came in contact with ethanol because it is EXTREMELY corrosive.

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Go multifuel deisel, them can throw in any flammible liquid so long as the fuel pump can pump it.That is why I'm such a fan of gas tubines, very high power to weight ratios, don't care what you put in them so long as they can burn it fast enough and hot enough, and gives the user the excuse "Sorry, I can't get enough power to even move if you put that on me, EPA." (Too high of a back pressure can cause a flame out.)

Ironically, the EPA had the commercials for Ethanol. I looked more into it, and it is an attempt to make an alternative fuel for petrol/diesel. The engines willing to take Ethanol E85 are FLEXfuel approved; which includes the Vortec 4300. Something more "Green" than petrol. (I HATE the EPA)

But yea, my dad's 650 is a diesel and burns anything easy.

TMLC is right. Diesel can handle pure biofuel without any modifications, but gasoline engines usually don't like ethanol, and putting pure biofuel into them wrecks the engine. My car doesn't seem to care what I put in it, but I'm sure it wouldn't handle E85 that well either. And to answer the question of "what do we get by using ethanol over petrol" the answer is increased food prices if they're making it with corn and using more land for corn production. A similar question could be asked about electric cars, and the answer is that the pollution is moved somewhere else. You can't win with alternative energy sources.

That's what every man should know. Now they're faking it out using fiberglass and plastic frames, to weigh less, at the cost of safety, to get better "fuel effency."

I'd be assuming that it might be in the engine that isn't exactly made to take ethanol...you'd never know, but I'm sure if you compared another car with an ethanol tank they could do similar stats...

Shame about the wasted cash too...cash I could have got...

I researched it a bit. It doesn't usually meet standards for gas/petrol.

You want the money, come and get it. ;P

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You want the money, come and get it. ;P

*grabs shovel and enters AC-130* LET'S DO THIS.

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