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Wot I Fink: Family


McJobless

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I never thought I'd have to do this kind of entry, but my feelings on the matter are quite high, and I think I have some explaining to do. I'm sorry in advance. Hopefully it will never come to this again.

I remember first joining RRU. It was just before dinner on a school night, all the way back in 2010. I had just gone through my emails (this was my second email account) on my brothers computer in his room (already showing who would be the richer one), and found a brand new RRU newsletter mysteriously sitting in the previously empty (again, second account; my first one had 2) RRU Newsletter category. For some reason, I had categorised RRU Newsletters without even being an active member on the site (yet).

At first, it was my scary. I had been to forums before, but this one felt...different. It looked like the admin had spent a lot of time and effort, going out of his way to purchase his own domain and forum software, instead of using the free forums of the time. It felt...professional. I, at the time, wasn't even sure if I would be committed to staying. I just made an introduction topic, as you do, and went off on my merry way to dinner, before then playing a few hours of PS1 and then passing out.

The next day I woke up, and I was astounded; the admin had personally responded to me, alongside some moderators and other members. I felt...brilliant. I never had such a warm welcome in my life. I posted a bit more, here and there, being careful to make sure I didn't annoy anybody or break anything I wasn't supposed to. I slowly gathered confidence and became more and more invested in the site. I started to download some of the tools, and screw around LegoRR, seeing if I could contribute something, anything, to the site, so I wouldn't just be dead-wood.

Eventually I ventured into the unknown abyss of the Shoutbox. I had done IRC before, but most chats were dead, and many of the people were pretty quiet, even when talking. But, something was different. These people were...alive. And entertaining. They all had unique personalities and stories. They didn't bite (not at first at least; Zephyria ;P). I spent more time interacting with them, and starting to feel like I might actually be a part of this..."family".

We all know the story from there. Boy finds some dead code nobody knew how to work with, boy plays around with it, boy accidentally is able to get multiple minifigure types into the game, boy because instant success. And after that, things went everywhere. I climbed my way through the post counts while witnessing (and being a major part of) many various conflicts on the site, learning to animate under the wing of Cirevam while everyone chortled "Does he love cub or coke?" This place grew on me, and it's pretty much been a better place than my own home.

I tell you this story because of that word; "family". That's what we, more or less, are. Cyrem's the single parent, the moderators are the older siblings, the new editors are the nosy kids who like to shower everyone with gossip, the donators are the spoiled goodie-two-shoes, the contributors are also spoiled goodie-two-shoes ( ;P) and then we have all the other younger siblings. That just how it is on this site.

As much as a family stands together, I've seen more of a family falling apart. And this one is no different. We all have our difference in opinions, in the way we do things, and the way we communicate. It shows most online, and especially here, where the anticipation between each post builds up moreso than on a instant messaging service. That's a problem inherit in forums, but it seems to be less of a problem here. Nonetheless, we still have parts of it showing up, and mostly within myself (See the side-rant in the spoiler below).

I am quite a jerk. There will be people who dispute this, but I believe I've seen enough to know what I am and what I'm not. You see, I am a jerk...with a heart of gold (didn't think you'd ever see TVTropes appear in one of these, did you?). Now, that's not me being very immodest. What I'm getting at is, I don't show my "good side" except to those who I feel have gained my respect. If you can't gain my respect, it means you're doing something very wrong in my opinion. How to qualify is not important, since most people will (I would have pointed out a specific member here, but that goes against what I'm writing) inevitable do something that gives them the opportunity to see a more "real" me (if what these real life people are saying is true).

It happens in cycles, and those cycles are regular, and it's happening right now. A certain member appears to shake up the website, and embarks on a journey where we are constantly disappointed by their actions and their words, to the point where some of us outright (and people, we all must admit it sometime, despite how we'd normally say "we just stumbled upon this topic by accident") follow their post rampage, hoping they'll eventually listen to us, as we try to defuse a ticking timebomb that could bring an end to forum order itself. Or so we think. Cyrem has a nice giant big "UNDO" button in his office.

Since that first night, when I nervously jumped online to and posted a hello, hoping I wouldn't be ripped in half, I've meet a lot of people on this site (not in real life, but that's not important). I've grown and changed, and I've formed opinions on people. We all know who I respect, who I feel can be a bit "excessive" at times, and who I want nothing more than to throw out the airlock. But recently, I've been challenging my own opinions and fighting with myself and my actions. That said, one person has constantly set my entire brain on fire and locked all the fire hydrants.

I won't name names. You know who it is. You know that person, on this site or not, has demonstrated a lack of respect, blatant ignorance, and contempt for authority. I'm not here to rip them apart to shreds. Instead, I'm here to...apologise.

Yes, I'm serious. Not to them, oh hell no. But instead to the staff and members of this site, and to anybody else who had been caught in the cross-fire. Sometimes I get out of hand. I go beserk and then attempt to justify my actions as being right, when I'm no better (and that's hard to say for some people) than the person I'm trying to call out. It's of great disrespect to myself, and to the forums when new members come and see what I've posted. I hold a position of, relatively, some power, and to act as I do...I should know better. We should know better. It's not right for me to hide behind this computer and call out people, only to reflect poorly myself on those who have worked harder than me to bring us all together in the first place. Respect must be given if it is to be earned, and in many ways, I have been undoing what respect I gave to the staff and members here that I worked up with great effort. One step forward and three steps back.

There's not much that can be done now on my end, apart from holding back in future, and letting the moderators and the admin deal with this whole mess as they see fit. But, nonetheless, if I'm committed to stopping this, I do need to throw something off my chest, else I'll never breathe again.

I have never met a person like the one I am talking about right now. Never ever. An attitude so fowl, I should have smelt it from his very first post in the RIP topic. His constant derogatory, "innocent-until-never-proven-guilty" persona fills me with so much hate and bile, I'm considering seeing a doctor. We tried to justify it as the person being "young", but even then, many younger members have, more or less, settled down after contact with a member of staff, and their annoying tendencies have been little more than a small itch that's easily scratched away. I will not be silent about this person in private, and I would happily, if not given the fact that this is supposed to be civilised communal gathering and that I am supposed to be a pillar of respect and patience, stand in front of ANY member, one I have little respect for or not, and defend them from this maniac. They do not represent what we do, what we say, or who we are. They do not understand what it means to be a part of this community. They are not family.

And that is Wot I Fink.

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I remember when you were wanting me thrown out the airlock a couple days ago because I was singing in the Sbox. :P

When I think of family, one song always pops into my head: "Family Time" from Disney's Brother Bear. When I joined here almost 1 year ago, I thought that I would get the same negative response as I did with a gaming forum I was on before where the members treated me like dirt because I was the new guy. Not here. People came and said hello to me and gave me good advice about pants. ;)

The way I see it, every new person acts like a freshman in High School. Young, ignorent, unaware of their surroundings, and so on. I was the same way. I wandered the forum, and I learned what bugged people and learned to change my ways to make everyone happier. My great issue was indeed, my addiction to a certain video game series: Halo. @Zeph: I was a little upset on Skype when you said that I earned the title of being the forum's "Halofag", but then I realized that this was true. Looking back, I kind of exploded with topics about Halo. But over the course of the year, I have since dulled down a lot. Also, I am sorry for over-reacting to the truth.

This certain person on the forum is indeed pulling this family down. In marching band, we had a special chain that we would bring to every competition. This chain had a link for every person it our marching band. We would pass that chain around, hold it, feel the bonds between the links, remembering the famous saying: "We are only as strong as our weakest link", and pass it on. I have 3 families. My home family, my marching family, and of course you guys, my RRU family. Each of my families work together and helps each other out, but when one member of the family doesn't work well with others, it drags the entire family to a screeching halt.

I can't think of anything better to say than that. A family is not just a group of people, it is a group of friends who bond together, stay together, STAND together. Through sun and rain, a family must provide for each other in order to stay strong. I am proud to be a part of this family, and as I look ahead to my 1 year anniversary, I want to thank all of you for taking me in. :)

(If you would like the song "Family Time", PM me. It is a really good song and it fits well into this forum ;) )

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I love RRU. I've only been here for nearly six months, but I feel part of the family. At times I still feel like I'm trying to fit in, but I'm sure many people have gone through that insecurity at times. This forum is definitely the best forum I have encountered, particularly in terms of community spirit and friendliness. While on some forums you have the snobby high-ranking members who look down on who they see to be the inferiors (okay, perhaps that's a little exaggerated ;) ), RRU is just brilliant. I too felt pretty epic inside when I had a moderator/Cyrem posting in my topics. And, unlike other forums, you do get to know people here (not necessarily in person, as you said, but their personalities shine through).

 

In short, I too enjoy being on RRU and part of the family. Thank you all for making it a great place to be.

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Up until recently, the majority of my time was spent with the Yugioh community. No, I would not call you a jerk. A lot of people there have the worst attitudes towards anyone who gets anything wrong...those people are jerks. And a lot worse.

 

Ben (yes, I'm naming him - he's earned every bit of vitriol toward himself) is definitely not exceptional in the LEGO Fan community. He's not. In the course of my misadventures with the LNA community, I met quite a few members who behaved like him - who can't handle criticism, who have an opinion of themselves that is ridiculously inflated, and who, even after being brought down towards reality, remain floating high in the sky. Ben is only unusual for this site. Back when I was on Brickipedia, someone with HORRID grammar came to the site, and he would edit, edit, edit. As an administrator, I should have banned him, but I didn't, because I was not the only administrator and was not allowed to do so. He rarely listened and never understood just how much he was hurting all of us, how much he was wasting our time...but we never outright stopped him, because of the people who want everything to be happy-cheery, the people who say "stop fighting!" when you begin to discuss a problem. I hate those people - I do. Long story short, it culminated into the person I most enjoyed talking with on the wiki and the first/second most prolific editor (he and I had a friendly competition going) blowing up at someone else (a person who I still despise, but that's for another day) and getting banned forever.

 

That's not to say that his behavior is in every way incorrect and that he deserves respect or acceptance - the contrary is true. He has to be pushed into understanding and/or leaving, otherwise he'll continue to makes things worse.

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Well for one thing I agree with JBJ about those snobby high ranking members...

I think that RRU is one of the more open communities, and I think the reason for that is because it is still growing and is relatively young compared to some places like BZP etcetera...now obviously most of us have made mistakes, since we aren't Borg...(like me allowing my idiot little brother to get a hold of my keyboard while I wasn't looking)

Anywho my point is that RRU is a very accepting community, compared to the larger online communities. And that if you do make a mistake they most likely won't throw you into the frying pan or the lava pool in the cavern...unless you end up doing something really stupid that gets you banned...(but then again if you get banned then you obviously aren't mature enough to follow the rules, and get along with the community...)

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Again, you amaze me, McJobless. And in a good way.

 

This website is a lot like family. We've had some disturbances within the forums in the shape of certain members (Magare/devestater, dellr, fun, etc.) but for most of the ones who weren't banned, the others have learned how RRU runs.

 

Some members have left, but the community has still stayed strong. And I think the whole lot of us have grown over the last few years. We have some of the finest moderators I have seen on a forums website (and I'm not just saying that), and I respect each and every one of them.

 

I have no qualms with the regular members here. Each of them I respect, regardless of what I may have said to them in years past.

 

This site has gained a little and lost a little, and that's what makes it what it is. Regardless of the members who seem to try and ruin this community out of ignorance.

 

Thank you, McJobless, for voicing something I have thought for a long time.

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McJobless... You are not, repeat, NOT a jerk, you are NOT a moron and you are NOT anything that is negative.

 

I bet I know who you are talking about but I cannot help but feel like hiding in my house for many days. Now I feel negative, not you...

 

Drat...

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I bet I know who you are talking about but I cannot help but feel like hiding in my house for many days. Now I feel negative, not you...

You could guess, but you could be probably wrong. I never specifically said it was a member of this site, and even if it was any member of this site, they would probably read this, realise their mistakes and change for the better, making everyone happy again.

And if you're going to let what happens online dictate what you do in real life, that's a problem. I never let comments made online get to me, and neither should you, because without knowing the person and seeing their emotion and body language, you have no idea if they're being serious, satirical or over-reacting.

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I agree with this post 100%. This site is a family. It is not just a website about LEGO game modding, we are truly a family. And like all families, we have our arguments, our spats, and differences. Most (if not all) of us have siblings, so we know how it goes.

 

McJobless, I do not know to whom this post was directed too, and as you said, it may not even be a person on here, but to me, you were talking to and about me. You and I have been arguing a lot lately, over various things. It's as if every time we are both online, we are at each others throats, just waiting to pick a fight with each other. When I joined, it was not like that, and somewhere between then and now, things have changed. Yes, we have our differences, our own opinions, and our own beliefs, but that should not be an area of strife. I believe you are who you say you are, and I believe you are a kind-hearted person, who wants to be kind to everyone. I, IRL, try to do that every day, and I try to do that online, but I guess it does not happen all the time.

 

McJobless, I am sorry for my actions, how I have fought with you, and the times I want to kick the (LEGO) bricks out of you. That was wrong, and I should not have done that. I confess, my actions on here have not been what they should be and have been, and that is wrong. You know the saying "Don't let the sun go down on your anger"? I haven't been mad at you when I went to bed, but I was still kinda stung. I should not have done that. I needed to apologize to you for my actions, and ask for forgiveness. And I am asking for your forgiveness right now. I do not want this fighting and avoidance of each other to continue, it has got to end, just as the fighting in a real family must stop.

 

And to anyone who I may have offended in any way: attitude, talk, choices, anything: I am sorry as well. I remember when a post was made on here that told about how many people on the RRU Skype felt I was a "Mr. Know It All", "I am better than you" and "Always innocent" person. But, instead of digging that back up and comment on it, I apologize for the actions I did to make you think of me that way. Forgive, and forget: a principle we all should follow, but don't always do (myself included). I'm not an know it all, I'm not better than you, and I do make mistakes, as all people do. I am sorry for my bad attitudes, and I ask for your forgiveness. We, myself included, are a Work-in-progress all our lives, but we all don't want to admit that.

 

McJobless, I think I will contact you about emulating my PS2 pretty soon. I did not peruse it any further after that topic, so I still have not played GT4. :)

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My reply is a bit late but that's because I've been thinking about this blog.


I have to say, I wish there were more of these types of blogs. When people come and say hi, it's great... but later on it's nice to hear a little more about when you first began here,  more open and honest. So first I went back in time to check out your introduction topic again. You didn't like emoticons so didn't use them. I can see that has somewhat changed, you use them a bit now. For some reason I said ROLFCOPTER is win... I don't know why :|. Anyway! While your intro topic wasn't long, the topic actually had some decent game design discussion and was genuinely friendly.


You mentioned that when you saw the site you thought it looked professional. This is something I have always strived for. While the content of the forum is what counts, the appearance of the site is the first thing you see. This can make or break your opinion of the website and could cause you to stay or leave within seconds. Before we moved to the new forums when we were using the free software It came to the decision of: I have the seemingly growing successful forum, do I leave it as it is and keep plotting along? or do I make the change and give it all I have and hope it all works out? I took the chance, it paid off. I consider myself very lucky given the chances of me starting to mod and create a forum for a not-so-popular game that was almost 10 years old... and it actually turning out to be a success.


Oh yes, and the coke jokes. They were great... and I seem to recall saying I would send you a coke challenge of how many cans you could do in a day... Then you went through that 'stoned' stage which was a little strange.


I'm glad you went against your friends the "lego-killers" and joined... I'd be the lone Aussie without you.


Despite there being member ranks I think it is important to remember that all members are valued regardless of their rank. Every single one of you makes the community, without you(and I'm talking to everyone here) there is one less person to talk to. There are less posts/ideas/opinions and that wouldn't be enjoyable.


Tensions build, stupid things get said... things you generally wouldn't have said otherwise, I'm no exception. It happens, everyone has to deal with it. Sometimes you get into an argument and say things without thinking it out, but by the time you realize this... it's too late. This is no different from most families, we all need to knock each other back in-line again once in a while, it's a good thing. We do this because we care. People just need to see it this way. Every now and then a member of the family leaves, usually a result of some argument. But arguments aren't forever, they are this little tiny thing that can occur in seconds and can somehow destroy days, months and years of work and friendship. Are you going to let something like this get in your way, or will you resolve the problem?... or even just forget it occurred? It's something to think about. In a lot of cases it's not reasonable to leave over petty disputes, after all RRU is not about two individuals, it's about everyone.  A lot of these things tend to work themselves out in time... enemies become friends etc... Unfortunately some people leave before any healing can begin. Anyway I'm babbling on...


Thank you.

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My faith in humanity has been slightly restored thanks to the comments and this blog entry.

 

Great job, mate.

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If you think this site is a family, you're blind and deaf.

 

okay fortunately my trolling from when I was feeling pissy did not work.

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